ISLAMABAD, Dec 15 (Agencies): Pakistan has proposed the construction of a bridge across the Ravi river connecting two Sikh Gurudwaras on opposite sides of the border with India. Pakistan has presented the proposal to India to build the bridge on the Ravi river in Punjab that will connect the two Gurudwaras located in Narowal (Pakistan) and Batala (India), sources said. Pakistani federal minister Ahsan Iqbal approached Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and floated the idea to promote bilateral peace and harmony and also to boost trade and commerce in Narowal district, the News International reported citing the sources. An official said if the proposal is approved by India then Sikh pilgrims would find it easier to move between Gurudwara Darbar Sahib Kartarpur in Narowal and Dera Baba Nanak Dev Jee in Batala via a shorter and less tiring route. The Gurudwara Kartarpur was established by Guru Nanak, the founder of Sikhism, in 1522. 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E, portanto, no que respeita ao envolvimento dos diferentes actores neste processo de mudanca, a Historia, o que nos mostra, e que muitos processos de mudanca se fizeram contra os interesses e que, em outros, houve o envolvimento dos interesses. Nao ha uma norma unica e na Educacao ha imensos exemplos: a escolaridade obrigatoria, por exemplo. E uma lei, uma norma, que, quando e instituida, vai contra os interesses das familias, nao se faz com as familias. A massificacao do acesso ao ensino faz-se contra as familias. Nao ha muitos anos, a GNR ainda ia a casa das criancas busca-las para as levar para a escola, o que mostra como as grandes mudancas nao se fazem com o envolvimento dos interessados. Quando se olha em perspectiva, nao acho. Fizemos um progresso notavel. Com a mesma escola que temos hoje, em alguns casos a mesma escola fisica, fizemos a passagem do Estado Novo, em que a unica coisa que tinhamos era a 4.? classe, com uma rede de escolas espalhadas pelas aldeias, de professores, nalguns casos, com pouca preparacao, com a caixinha dos solidos e os mapas, as reguas, tudo igual, de Norte a Sul. E nos conseguimos constituir em cima dessa heranca um patrimonio excepcional, as escolas do 2.? ciclo e do 3.?, e do secundario, depois o ensino profissional, formacao e profissionalizacao de professores, a partir de certa altura ja com os sindicatos envolvidos nestes processos de mudanca, ja com as universidades... Nao penso em mim nesses termos. Sinto sempre que sou Maria de Lurdes Rodrigues. Nao sei... Olho para tras, penso no trabalho que fui fazendo, nos projectos que fui desenvolvendo e acho que me oriento muito pela concretizacao. Gosto de ter ideias mas tambem da oportunidade de as concretizar. Gosto desse lado da vida de construir, de fazer. Fazer. Ter projectos, concretiza-los e ao fim de tres anos dizer: "Esta feito. A medida que tomou como ministra que mais contestacao gerou foi o modelo de avaliacao dos professores. Tentou po-lo em pratica sem o apoio dos professores, contra os professores. Ficou a ideia da avaliacao. A ideia de que era preciso uma avaliacao com consequencias, essa ficou. Nao sei se na pratica esta em vigor nas escolas, isso sinceramente nao sei. O ciclo do meu mandato foi muito longo. E a propria ideia de avaliacao teve um percurso. Acho que a questao mais critica no caso dos professores sao as suas consequencias. Mas toda a mudanca que se fez no Estatuto da Carreira Docente (ECD) nao posso dizer que a tenha feito contra os professores ou sem os professores, ou ate sem a auscultacao de outras forcas politicas. Foi um processo muito mais negociado do que no final parecia ter sido, envolvendo ate o PSD no desenho de algumas das solucoes, nomeadamente na estruturacao vertical da carreira, etc... mas depois a politica tambem tem as suas conjunturas. Nao sei, a minha ideia era que a avaliacao tivesse consequencias e que os professores deixassem de progredir na carreira apenas com base no numero de anos de servico e independentemente de estarem ao servico ou nao, com base na mera contagem dos dias de trabalho.... agora nem sei como e... mas era assim. Na educacao isto e novo. Se fizer o estudo da evolucao das politicas educativas vai encontrar uma continuidade. Nao e verdade. Os programas que estavam em vigor quando eu cheguei eram de 1989, do tempo de Roberto Carneiro. Alterou-se o curriculo em 2000/2001, mas os programas mantiveram-se intactos. E uma percepcao publica que eu aceito que existe, mas que esta desajustada. No pre-escolar nunca mais ninguem mudou o pre-escolar [desde Marcal Grilo]. Ha uma continuidade e um esforco no mesmo sentido: mais alunos, mais tempo na escola, mais servicos educativos. No livro que acaba de lancar, Politicas Publicas para a Reforma do Estado, com Pedro Adao e Silva, conclui-se que tudo esta errado na actual reforma do Estado — ou que nao e sequer uma reforma. Estudar o que esta feito, olhar para tras, recolher informacao e conhecer muito bem o que foi feito, a heranca que tem, aquilo que e a trajectoria, o legado. Nao tem sentido introduzir qualquer mudanca sem conhecer o legado. Os riscos de desperdicio e de inflexao de trajectorias que ate sao positivas e muito grande. O primeiro ingrediente e conhecer, e ter informacao, e saber. E depois ha as comparacoes internacionais, o que se faz la fora, o que pode ser inspirador, quais as grandes metas e objectivos que podemos alcancar. Nao. Sobretudo — e e uma marca deste Governo — ha um enorme desprezo pelo legado, a ideia de que em dois anos se muda o pais. Ouvi coisas muito preocupantes: que era um erro que o Tribunal Constitucional pudesse proteger "coisas como o Servico Nacional de Saude". Que os governos deviam poder destruir o SNS porque no final da legislatura seriam avaliados e o Governo seguinte poderia reconstruir. Ora isto e nao saber nada de Estado, nao saber nada de instituicoes publicas. Uma instituicao como o SNS demora 30 anos a construir, exige a formacao de medicos, a construcao de hospitais, de sistemas, afectacao de recursos. Nao se faz em quatro anos, nao e o tempo de uma legislatura. Ter a nocao de que isto pode ser destruido, que tanto faz, que podemos destruir o SNS porque no final vamos avaliar o Governo e no ano seguinte outro Governo constroi, e nao saber nada daquilo que se esta a falar, e nao saber nada de politica, nao saber nada de instituicoes, e nao saber nada de Historia, e nao saber nada de nada. E de uma leviandade, de uma ligeireza... 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Home| Contact us | Guesbook | Photo Gallery | About | Directory Editor-in-chief: Kanwar G.S. More News.. London: Former world champion Viswanathan Anand bowed out of the London Chess Classic after losing the quarterfinals against Vladimir Kramnik of Russia 0.5-1.5 here at the Olympia. Anand, who had shown fine form coming in to the quarters, ran out of steam in the second game with white pieces and found himself in a lost position in almost no time in the 1,50,000 Euros prize money tournament. Michael Adams of England kept the local hopes alive by defeating Russian Peter Svidler in the tiebreaker while Boris Gelfand of Israel stole the limelight ousting Fabiano Caruana of Italy. In the other quarterfinal, Hikaru Nakamura of United States defeated Nigel Short to cement his place in the semis. It turned out to be a disappointing second game for Anand from the white side of a queen pawn opening. 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Recevez notre newsletterEntrez les termes que vous recherchez. Une association israelienne recueille et publie des temoignages de soldats qui denoncent « l’occupation » dans les Territoires. Les textes, parfois violents, sont percutants. Rue89 en publie quatre. Aux checkpoints israeliens, beaucoup de soldats ont encore des visages d’enfants et portent en bandouliere des armes bien plus grandes qu’eux. En Israel, le service militaire est obligatoire des la majorite : il dure minimum 22 mois pour les filles, trois ans pour les garcons. Ca represente beaucoup de temps quand on a 20 ans. Yehuda Shaul etait l’un d’entre eux, entre 2001 et 2004. Apres des etudes dans le lycee talmudique d’une colonie juive de Cisjordanie, il a servi trois ans dans le 50e bataillon de la Brigade Nahal. Choque par ce qu’il a vecu, il a fonde « Breaking the silence » (briser le silence) : l’association israelienne recueille et publie des temoignages de soldats, officiers et sous-officiers du Tsahal. « Le livre noir de l’occupation israelienne », Ed. Autrement, 2013 Des centaines de recits, collectes et verifies par l’ONG, qui denoncent « l’occupation » et decrivent les actions de l’armee dans les Territoires, depuis la seconde intifada (2000). Un recueil de temoignages bruts, traduits en francais, vient de paraitre sous le titre « Le Livre noir de l’occupation israelienne » (Ed. Autrement, octobre 2013). Les briseurs de silence disent vouloir montrer la verite, faire du bruit pour lutter contre l’occupation. « On dit, “he les gars il y a une occupation, regardez ce qu’on est en train de faire” », explique Yehuda Shaul sur France 24. Entretien avec Yehuda Shaul sur France 24, en octobre 2013Destructions arbitraires de maisons palestiniennes, arrestations, violences, humiliations... les temoignages, bien que non exhaustifs, sont eclairants sur le mode operatoire de l’armee dans les Territoires. Le tout empreint de violence faite, vue ou ressentie. « Je me suis senti, moi et quelques autres, dans un moment de frenesie, a casser des tables, des portes, a jeter des tas et des tas de papiers dans chaque piece, des trucs comme ca. La folie interieure se libere, juste parce que tu peux, je dirais. » (p. Il y a aussi dans ces recits des coups, des pierres, du sang, des morts. Mais ce qui est precieux et rare, dans tous ces temoignages, c’est de decouvrir le regard des soldats sur leurs propres actions et sur ce qui les depasse. L’une a ete marquee par Moussa, un civil palestinien de 22 ans, avec qui elle a discute plusieurs fois sur le pont Allenby. « Il m’a regarde dans les yeux et il m’a dit : “Je vis dans une prison, je ne peux pas aller a la mer, je veux aller a Tel Aviv, acheter des choses pour ma femme.” Et ca te ronge de l’interieur. Des mots pareils, une situation pareille, tu commences a changer de point de vue. C’est-a-dire, quand je suis arrivee, je me suis engagee dans l’armee tres... je ne sais pas si on peut dire de droite, mais tres motivee... je voulais tout faire pour... Et ton service seme le doute, avec ce que j??ai vecu, j’ai commence a mettre les choses en doute. » (p. D’autres recits parlent de culpabilite – « j’ai honte » – ou d’humanite. Plusieurs soldats disent aussi que les souvenirs les relancent sans cesse. Rue89 a selectionne et publie quatre temoignages, extraits du « Livre noir de l’occupation israelienne », avec l’aimable autorisation des editions Autrement. 1« J’ai juste fait du mal a quelqu’un. Bataillon Lavi, dans les collines d’Hebron Sud, en 2003.« Il y a eu un incident dont je pense que c’est le plus... c’est le truc que je regrette le plus. C’est la pire chose que j’ai faite pendant tout mon service dans les Territoires. Il y avait ce type qui venait de Yatta et qui voulait passer un barrage. Il se rendait de Yatta a Hebron, a la laiterie. Il y avait un camion plein de recipients pour le lait. Je crois qu’il y avait un couvre-feu a Hebron a ce moment-la. Bref, il n’avait pas le droit de passer. Je l’ai attrape au moment ou il franchissait le barrage, c’etait la troisieme fois de la semaine que j’attrapais le meme type – dans des circonstances differentes, mais le meme type, plus ou moins au meme endroit. J’ai un peu pete les plombs, parce que je l’ai fait sortir... je lui ai dit de descendre du vehicule et tout, mais il s’est mis a protester et a crier, alors j’ai tout de suite fait deux choses : j’ai sorti les menottes et le bandeau. Je suis monte dans la jeep et je l’a amene a la porte. Il etait, je ne sais pas, 10 heures du matin, quelque chose comme ca... et je l’ai relache entre 11 heures et 1 heure du matin. C’est-a-dire, c’etait l’ete... c’est-a-dire, toute la journee. Il avait genre 2 000 litres de lait avec lui et tout a tourne. Ca a dure toute la journee, il est reste a la porte avec les yeux bandes et les mains attachees. Quand j’y repense maintenant, j’ai honte pour deux raisons. Premierement, pour la maniere dont j’ai traite un autre etre humain. Attraper un homme et prendre le controle de sa vie comme ca ? [...] Je l’ai emmene comme un prisonnier, attache. Et personne d’autre n’etait responsable de ca. Ce n’est pas comme si j’avais recu des ordres, vous voyez ? Non, c’est ce que j’ai decide de faire. Et c’etait acceptable. Du point de vue de tous mes superieurs, il n’y avait pas de probleme. OK, tu as arrete quelqu’un, voila comment tu as traite un autre etre humain, mais le fait est qu’il y avait aussi des biens, c’est-a-dire du lait. Quelque chose qui avait une valeur financiere a ete perdu. [... Ce n’est pas un terroriste, il n’etait pas recherche, il ne s’en est pas pris a moi, il ne m’a pas menace avec une arme. C’est un type normal. Quelle etait l’utilite de ce que j’ai fait ? Aucune. Est-ce que ca a contribue a la securite de l’Etat ? Non. J’ai juste fait du mal a quelqu’un. Et ca ne va pas. Brigade Nahal, a Hebron, en 2002.« Il y a cette maison qu’on a investie a Hebron... on l’a prise. Vous connaissez la procedure : la famille descend d’un etage. Qu’est-ce qu’on a fait ? On etait... au troisieme etage, les gars ont installe un tuyau pour pouvoir pisser dehors. Ils ont mis le tuyau, on l’a installe exactement de maniere a ce que la pisse coule dans la cour de la maison en dessous de nous. Il y avait quelques poulaillers, ca coulait dessus. Tous les jours, c’etait la blague, attendre que le pere ou l’un des gamins aille au poulailler et tout le monde se mettait a pisser. Ou bien je me rappelle un ami qui aimait se laver les dents et la bouche avec le bidon puis attendre que quelqu’un passe en bas pour leur cracher dessus. Ca fait partie de... Ca fait partie des choses que tu peux faire, ouais, tu peux faire ca. Personne ne t’en empechera, pas meme les grades sur le terrain, parce que en general ils font partie du consensus, pas des exceptions. C’est un truc qu’on peut faire. Tu peux, a toi de decider si tu le fais ou pas. Il n’y a pas de juge, de jugement. Personne ne te jugera pour ca. Brigade Nahal, a Hebron, en 2009.« Une fois, on a fait une arrestation. Ils jetaient des pierres place Gross, on a ete alertes et ce gamin est apparu. 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J’ai commence a le secouer : “Tais-toi, tais-toi, ca suffit maintenant !” Puis on l’a emmene au poste de police, il pleurait encore et les flics ne voulaient pas l’interroger. Ils ne voulaient pas de lui, c’etait tellement agacant, absurde. Au milieu de toute cette pagaille, alors qu’il se roule par terre, le type des communications sort son Motorola. [...] Boum, un coup sur la tete. Il ne voulait pas lui faire de mal. C’etait juste apres deux heures de pleurs insupportables. [...] Je me rappelle, on les detestait. Je les detestais. J’etais tellement raciste, la-bas, j’etais en colere contre leur salete, leur misere, toute la putain de cette situation [...] On a fini par le detacher parce qu’il pleurait, il nous suppliait. Il criait, il etait trempe de sueur, de morve, de larmes. Tu ne sais plus quoi faire. On l’a secoue par desespoir. Ce n’etait pas particulierement violent. 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